Rent is How Much?
- After buying a home in Barrington Hills, Chaoshan Lai and his wife couldn’t unload the 15-year-old townhouse that they’d bought for $935,000 in Central Station, a taxpayer-subsidized development in the South Loop where former Mayor Richard M. Daley lived for years.
Lai couldn’t even find anyone to rent the townhouse on South Prairie Avenue — until he got a call in 2013 about a woman who’d gotten a “housing choice voucher,” from the Chicago Housing Authority through a program that had long been called Section 8.
Lai says the woman wanted to lease his three-bedroom, three-and-a-half bath home, which has a library and is within walking distance of Soldier Field and the lakefront.
“I said, ‘You probably cannot afford the rent,’ ” Lai recalls. “But they said they have a special program in the ‘opportunity area’ that pays much better. I said, ‘Let’s give it a shot.’ ”
It ended up being a good deal for Lai. Since June 1, 2013, he’s collected more than $100,000 from the CHA, which administers public housing in Chicago for the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development. The CHA pays him $3,911 a month in federal funds to lease his townhouse to the woman and three others in her household, including a child under the age of 6, records show.
Most coppers probably have a mortgage that is half of that $3,911 per month and they don't have a swanky million dollar Central Station townhouse. But the CHA is burning through $47 million A MONTH to subsidize this crazy type of crap.
Nothing like making it big.....without having to earn any of it.
Nothing like making it big.....without having to earn any of it.
Labels: un-fucking-believable
posted by SCC at 12:37 AM
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You have to give the government credit. It knows how to spend the taxpayers money in huge amounts.
In the 018th District,I see all the problem calls in high rises,95% section 8 ball.
I wanted to quickly read this blog and then go to bed, but after reading this article, Im too angry to sleep.
absolutely outrageous
Again thanks for posting my earlier comments. This one may not be popular but again this is my opinion. The projects were created to keep the races separate. Black men home from the war were not allowed to live in certain neighborhoods so they were forced to live in the projects. And at the same time denied the same wages. A double fuck you. That forced many families apart. Now I grew up in the projects but we were able to get out. Luckily, but even still where we moved all the non blacks moved out in two years. Gone. Section 8 was created because CHA fucked people over by taking tax money and building luxury high rises and then lying about creating some to be affordable. So the plan was designed to fail. You cannot take families from the projects and place them into luxury homes, number one, it is not fair to people who truly deserve that break and number two, you cause chaos in the area. There is a reason for the uptick in crimes where Section 8 residents are. I do not like Section 8 to be given to anyone able bodied. But private companies will not hire you due to background and drug testing. But even as the police you know of many people who have gotten breaks early on and they should be locked up but get a pass. What would be the idea,at this point end Section 8 but get ready to bear the weight of thousands of homeless families.
And people wonder why coppers are so cynical...(among other reasons.) Why work and take years off your life when you can get it for free?
seems to be an appropriate time to bust THIS video out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio&feature=youtu.be
WTF???? And how did the Section 8 recipient land THAT particular Building?? Over $3,900 a month rent????
I have to tell all my Liberal friends how much money "poor people" are getting to live in places they (my friends) will NEVER be able to afford - rent OR purchase.
I guess there is no ceiling as to what "poor people" can get?
Think about it - $3,900 a month is almost $48,000 a year. If you made $96,000 a year - you wouldn't be able to afford that rental bill. (figuring you need to pay taxes, plus your expenses like food, utilities, gas(for car), etc.)
Poor people?? Give me a break!!!
Next case.
Unbelievable. It is going to be interesting when the rules change and the leases run out. They will have to kick in more for the rent. How many are going to have to be evicted?
It's all part of Zero's forced integration plans.
Remember the McKinney Pool Party in Texas that cost a cop his job? Mom and kids were living in a house in a gated community on Sec 8 and kid invites ?? people over social media for a pool party. Alot more to the pool party story, though, then just extravagant Sec 8 vouchers to foster diversity.
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/06/11/shocker-dallas-reporter-investigating-the-dime-girls-and-twinzz-promotions-and-make-it-clap-parties/
So, no surprise over this.
That article absolutely made my blood boil.
OUTRAGEOUS.
What else can you say?
If you don't think "re-distribution of wealth" is happening - here is your evidence.
We pay for these leeches to live in swanky surroundings, but when it comes time to pay for our pensions, the City is always broke. This pisses me off to the max.
DemocRATS = Anti-Police and BLM terrorists Group! Vote anyone but DemocRATS!
Clowered and Piven , over burden the social welfare system to destroy the country from within .
This is why we have an open border in our welfare state . Think of it as a torpedo through the side of our country . Now you understand why perfectly healthy 20 year old gangbangers get SSI and their never paid taxes parents are in nursing homes at 6K/mo.
Our pension fund will be insolvent in 6 years if the city doesn't make the payment it keeps spending on other things , but there is plenty of money for people who never worked an honest day in their lives .
WTF ? ? ?
Socialism at its finest
damn... these guys are living better than us
It won't be such a good deal for the homeowner once the cockroach mitigation bills and vandalism repair bills start rolling in. I used to do rehab work for guys stupid enough to rent to section 8 tenants. The rehab was needed after the folks moved out.
There are 2 protected classes in the U.S.: the rich and the poor.
The rich get the benefits and the poor get the freebies.
The middle class just keeps getting squeezed for money.....harder and harder.
Wanna know why I'm voting for Trump? Because both Democrats and Republicans have been destroying me and my family.
I'm all tapped out and fucking done.
You owe them. Say otherwise? Then you're Racist.
The tax paying middle class are nothing more than "Scrubbing Bubbles"*.
*Scrubbing Bubbles: "We work hard so you don't have to."
I remember another article a few years ago busting this scam out and the CHA said that it was going to discontinue vouchers for luxury apartments. So that was bullshit?
These super voucher programs are a disgrace. Typical wasteful liberal programs. I'm so sick of taxpayers forced to pay for these degenerates. It needs to end.
I'm voting Trump tomorrow! That's how I protest liberalism.
I think Daley did the same thing to his Central Station Townhouse after Maggie kicked the bucket.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
Hey where do I sign up, been haven' trouble selling on N/W side, i'm sure my
neighbor's will love it, both CPD teacher's. Could use a decent crack dealer.
It's nothing new. This has been going on since the late 90's. Once Daley Inc. started tearing down all the projects, most residents were offered vouchers in lieu of public housing. A few coppers in the Problem Building Unit were put through the CHAC Renters Training and Landlord Program. Quite an eye opener.
http://www.thecha.org/residents/housing-choice-voucher-hcv-program/
http://www.thecha.org/residents/housing-choice-voucher-hcv-program/find-hcv-housing/
Thanks for reminding me why I am working 3 jobs.
So I can pay for these mutts.
You should hear the "residents" carry on about the Lathrop Homes up North. They want parks, baseball fields, brand new condos for nothing while the rest of us schmucks work to pay for it all.
It's not like there are any vacant properties on the west or south side for the CHA to put people in.
When is this bullshit going to be enough. Welfare has ballooned to over a Trillion dollars a year under this President. Think about that, you work your ass off and have 40% of you check taken away for what? To support these fucking parasites who contribute nothing to society and act only as a drain to the limited resources, and they are the victims? That is why they fear Trump so much, they are afraid that they are going to have to work for a living and be accountable and responsible for their lives. That is a completely foreign concept to them. Fuck these parasites, time to stop the unlimited welfare and set time limits on how long they get benefits. And yes that would set off a civil war as the parasite class fights to remain useless, but aren't we already at war? Feels like it, they are murdering and shooting in such astounding numbers that the number of innocents getting killed keeps going up. You want to live the life, fine, kill each other as much as you want. You are doing society a favor, but harm one innocent and it ends. No more acceptance of their behavior whether implicit or explicit. We need to end it now. That starts with keeping another Democrat out of the white house. Fuck Hillary, she and her husband should both be in prison.
Oh my god talk about entitlement, I would love to live in a high rise overlooking lake Michigan for 200 bucks a month or in a 400,000 home for 150 bucks a month or rent free but guess I am not the right color. The amount of money the voucher program spends on luxury apartment they could have bought that person a house but than again they would have keep it up and we know that is not happening. Katie Ludwig should be fired and banished from any government job for her incompetence . But think about this if this is happening in Chicago how many more entitled people spread across the U.S are wasting our money and living in luxury because they believe they are entitled to a better life without paying for it. We now have the answers why the democrat's win the black vote, its called giving it all away. Stay Fetal
Yes, pull that democratic ballot tomorrow. It sure is a good choice. I mean they've been doing a bang up job running the city, county, and state. If you vote democrat, you vote for the communists that piss your taxes away like this.
Ya gotta love democrats. Unf'n believable is spot on.
Yea. Keep voting democratic you assholes!
You don't have to pull a democrat ballot to vote for Alvarez. All three candidates are on Republican and Democrat ballots. Don't be stupid and pull a democrat ballot. If you do, you vote for communists.
this is GROSS mismanagement of taxpayer funds and people need to be held responsible for this shit
Republican ballot. Republican state's attorney. Let the dumbocrats fight it out.
I'm losing my home next month because of some financial issues my family has had and someone gets this type of house for free?
This is outrageous. Epitomizes what is wrong with this Section 8 program. I a month thoroughly disgusted and appalled after reading this.
There's an article making the rounds, complaining about Chicago being a segregated city and how there's no access for 'the poor' to live in Chicago's richest/most desirable neighborhoods. Well, yeah.
Maybe I'm missing something, but I always thought being rich, or living the lifestyle of the rich, is something you work hard for and earn (or occasionally inherit or marry into). WHY would someone who doesn't work for it be ENTITLED to it?
Lai is just as much an entitlement baby as his renter.
For most of us, if we can't sell our house (which we stupidly purchased for an inflated price, at the top of a real estate bubble), well, we stay there until the market improves or we take a financial loss when we sell it for less than we paid for it.
I don't for a moment believe this renter simply appeared on his doorstep - as if by magic - one day and explained the details of section 8 to him. It's amazing how the rich only get richer, by virtue of their connections to special programs and special people and special banks and special treatment.
We get fucked again only in Chicago !
This is the exact reason why I feel sometimes like a dumb ass for having worked so hard all of my life, sacrificed for my kid and wife to show them the way I thought it best to be a contributing member of a productive society.
Perhaps I was wrong. When do we get our turn to not have to contribute?
Fuck it all. I am buying life preservers for my wife and kid so they may have a chance as this city swirls the tidal wave of the giant toilet bowl we are living in.
Richard
"...where we moved all the non blacks moved out in two years. Gone."
3/14/2016 01:32:00 AM
A black man writes --
"Here's my life now: Suburban home. Homeowner's meetings. Wave to the neighbors as I pull into the garage. I rarely talk to them at length. Some of their names I don't even know. It's all so ... quiet.
"It was never like that in West Baltimore.
"The concept of personal space didn't seem to exist in my neighborhood. Everybody lived on top of or next to one another in row houses. I'd hear couples arguing, having sex, throwing parties. Outside there was the constant hum of street life: old ladies with their arms folded over ample bosoms watching children; young men hanging on the corners; strangers talking at the bus stop; men flirting with young women walking by.
"It was all so noisy.
"In such an intimate world, everyone seemed to know everybody's business. I knew the neighborhood drug dealer...the prostitute who saw "visitors" in her home late at night..."
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/18/us/baltimore-nicknames/
Some people would rather take a pass on all this. Constitutional right of "freedom of association."
So they moved away.
Like you did.
God bless. Stay safe.
Unbelievable, it pays to be lazy. I'm pretty sure they also posses luxury cars registered outside the city under baby momas name. Tax exempt, they don't benefit the city, they use emergency room visits on our tabs.
Sign me up quick!...or better yet is the section 8 renter single? I will move right in then I can walk to the 001st district to start my 2nd watch shift and come home for breakfast and washroom breaks...wee whoooooo!!!
That's just fucking great,,,,,azzhole
That's just fucking great,,,,,azzhole
Remember this the next time they start talking about not having enough money to pay our pensions or give us a contract raise. By the way, did Rahm ever make that required $500 million dollar payment to the pension? I haven't heard shit about it.
I hate this city. I'm really doing whatever I can to escape at this point.
So this is what politicians talk about when addressing ignorant, non-productive masses when they speak of “Affordable Housing”. The frequency of talk referencing “Affordable Housing” seem to ramp up near election times or when an opposing party attempts to balance the budget or attempts to exercise financial responsibility putting common sense in the administration of social programs and the associated costs paid for by the workers of America.
So this is a Cadillac Plan for subsidized housing. The real question is will participation in this subsidized housing entitlement/right preclude one from the Illinois Heating and Energy Assistance program (IHEAP), LINK cash and food assistance benefits (yes cash), SNAP Supplemental Nutritional Assistance Program, Medicare/Medicaid , Department of Agriculture funded Lifeline Assistance (obama phones reportedly to be used to contact potential employers with those 21st century high tech jobs), Earned Income tax credits, just to name a few.
Government at work. Keep paying those ever escalating taxes and accept the can’t cut the budget government shutdown propaganda. Nineteen (19) trillion in debt and counting. The future of our children are at stake and the American way of life is at risk.
Guaranteed that word that low income housing is nearby and the value will drop like Bill Clintons trousers when in the company of a fresh intern. Low income residents are assets which provide a diverse wealth of humanity despite plummeting surrounding property values and documented increases in indexed crimes.
Has anyone ever noticed Obama routinely vacations in lilly white uber upscale areas absent of low income (code speak for minorities) residents? I guess they are good for votes but not for a piece of his vacationing revenues in those deserving underserved communities. Spend some time with your voters and see what is really going on. I'm for the poor, ya right.
Life in a blue state
Blogger Leonard Hamilton said...
Again thanks for posting my earlier comments. This one may not be popular but again this is my opinion. The projects were created to keep the races separate. Black men home from the war were not allowed to live in certain neighborhoods so they were forced to live in the projects. And at the same time denied the same wages. A double fuck you. That forced many families apart. Now I grew up in the projects but we were able to get out. Luckily, but even still where we moved all the non blacks moved out in two years. Gone. Section 8 was created because CHA fucked people over by taking tax money and building luxury high rises and then lying about creating some to be affordable. So the plan was designed to fail. You cannot take families from the projects and place them into luxury homes, number one, it is not fair to people who truly deserve that break and number two, you cause chaos in the area. There is a reason for the uptick in crimes where Section 8 residents are. I do not like Section 8 to be given to anyone able bodied. But private companies will not hire you due to background and drug testing. But even as the police you know of many people who have gotten breaks early on and they should be locked up but get a pass. What would be the idea,at this point end Section 8 but get ready to bear the weight of thousands of homeless families.
3/14/2016 01:32:00 AM
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Dead Leonard Hamilton,
Your out of whack perspective is what perpetuates the problems faced by many black Americans. Here you complain that private companies will not hire you because of background and drug testing. The problem is not with the companies, or the testing; it is with your inability to pass either. Yet your sense of entitlement has you actually invested and fully believing the notion that because you have been convicted of crimes or currently use drugs, you are a victim.
I have news for you: there are still a number of black officers on CPD who came back from Vietnam, and faced all the same bigotry and ignorance and outright racism. They too grew up in public housing and faced all of the same temptations of the street and could have taken the easy way out: slinging dope/crack, selling guns, running gangs, stealing people's shit, and every other criminal enterprise that the "victims" you espouse who can't pass a background or a piss test because they chose that life. But they didn't. And they are some of the most genuine, toughest, and hardcore cops I know. Not pussies with a head full of gel, a backwards baseball cap, or their arms inked up with bullshit. They are just grown ass men who are the real police. And if anyone deserves a nice condo on the lakefront for cheap, it's them. And they'll pass a piss test or a background.
The sooner you get the idea out of your head that blacks are victims because of the injustice served upon them by whitey and thus should be exceptions to every expectation that the rest of us have to abide by, the sooner you will grasp the difference between entitled and earned. Plenty of blacks put up with the bullshit and still pass a drug test and a background. And in today's world of turnabout, plenty of whites are watching affirmative action promotions despite scoring 20 points higher on a promotional exam. Is any of it fair? No. But it's the way it is. So get over yourself. Guess what? If I'm not a crackhead or a felon and I pay $1million for my property, I have a right to not have known crackheads and felons living next door to me. I don't think that's unreasonable.
It's not the fault of the background check or the drug test Leonard. Man up and stop embarrassing your race.
Been going on for years. Saw it in neighborhoods I never dreamed of living in. Was too proud to game the system like that. The landlord is part of the problem. Hope his tenants wreck the place before they leave.
Again thanks for posting my earlier comments. This one may not be popular but again this is my opinion. The projects were created to keep the races separate. Black men home from the war were not allowed to live in certain neighborhoods so they were forced to live in the projects. And at the same time denied the same wages. A double fuck you. That forced many families apart. Now I grew up in the projects but we were able to get out. Luckily, but even still where we moved all the non blacks moved out in two years. Gone. Section 8 was created because CHA fucked people over by taking tax money and building luxury high rises and then lying about creating some to be affordable. So the plan was designed to fail. You cannot take families from the projects and place them into luxury homes, number one, it is not fair to people who truly deserve that break and number two, you cause chaos in the area. There is a reason for the uptick in crimes where Section 8 residents are. I do not like Section 8 to be given to anyone able bodied. But private companies will not hire you due to background and drug testing. But even as the police you know of many people who have gotten breaks early on and they should be locked up but get a pass. What would be the idea,at this point end Section 8 but get ready to bear the weight of thousands of homeless families
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Yes, END IT.
We can't handle it anymore.
Almost like reading an absurd funny story in the Onion newspaper. Sadly it is true. Any wonder this city, county, state, and country are broke. And now we have two Progressive Liberal Democrat candidates who want to give what is left away.
Another great example as to NOT Vote DemocRATS!
The Democratic Party of handouts [Section 8, Obama Phones, etc.] and lazy thugs [collecting S.S.I. for asthma while playing basketball all day]!
Vote Trump 2016!
Da Pelon
Keep voting democrats or worst not vote at all!! I said it before and I'll say it again we the police are force to be reckon for but unfortunately most of us are so small minded we don't see the bigger picture. Its unfortuate and pathetic!
responded to a call at 165 N. Harbor dr north tower section 8 tenant living up on the 45th floor nice views nothing like old CHA high rise 16 story buildings
what a deal stay poor and subsidize living standards for life!
Does Bernie know about this?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
You don't have to pull a democrat ballot to vote for Alvarez. All three candidates are on Republican and Democrat ballots. Don't be stupid and pull a democrat ballot. If you do, you vote for communists.
3/14/2016 10:04:00 AM
You have no fucking clue what you are talking about. Alvarez, Foxx and More are running in the Democratic primary for State's Attorney. They are not on the Republican ballot. Go back to 6th grade civics class you asshat.
There's section 8 and then there's mismanagement of a taxpayer funded programs. No one needs a $3,900 a month townhouse that's paid for by section 8 vouchers. These people will never get a job in fear of losing their section 8 status. That's how democrats stay in office. Keep people relying on the handouts. Paid to do nothing but vote democratic.
I love when you make an arrest at a section 8 paid for residence the lease holder will do or say anything to show that the arrestee doesn't reside at the section 8 location. Same reason black men won't marry babies mama. Loss of bennefits. It's the democratic cycle.
Worked a detail at Cabrini Green, female black walking into a high rise with a CTA bus driver uniform. Asked why she still lived there? "Because it's free." So she'd rather live in Mama's free Cabrini apartment then get her own place. Oh yeah she was driving a new Cadillac. Screwed up priorities. But hey BLM.
Damn that's good to know! I plan on retiring and will rent my house out to section 8 up here at Harlem and Talcott if I'm getting 3g's a month.
50% of Illinois residents are now receiving some form of welfare benefits, courtesy of the other working 50%. Fuck this state AND it's Democrat overlords.
The wheelchair shooter at 555 W Kinzie was also a section 8 beneficiary at $3,150.00 per month.
I just did the math, the yearly tab for this scam totals $430 Million per year to the taxpayers. That would be over $4 Billion over 10 years, where does all that money come from? Who in Congress voted for the appropriation that authorized this amount of funding? Had to be both political parties, not surprising that folks have lost faith in the existing political process. $4 Billion would build an entire new city for the Section 8 folks.
Incompetent leadership, patronage politics and contracts, liberal progressive ideas and thoughts. But, not everyone who lives in CHA subsidized housing are lazy,. There actually are people who have fallen on hard times, are disabled ( this definition has widened in the years to include many who could work but it would be difficult) and those who just cannot earn enough money to afford any housing. I volunteer for a homeless shelter, PADS, in teh south suburbs and I see all types of people. those taking advantage of the system, the scammers, but also those who just can't make it and work a menial jobs. Lots of sad stories out there but also lots of scammers who have pretty low standards of how they want to live their life.
This is the exact reason why I feel sometimes like a dumb ass for having worked so hard all of my life, sacrificed for my kid and wife to show them the way I thought it best to be a contributing member of a productive society.
Perhaps I was wrong. When do we get our turn to not have to contribute?
Fuck it all. I am buying life preservers for my wife and kid so they may have a chance as this city swirls the tidal wave of the giant toilet bowl we are living in.
Richard
3/14/2016 12:38:00 PM
the idea is....if you have to stay in Chicago, for whatever reason, move your family out, somewhere safe, where the kids can get a decent education; you, stay in Chicago in a small apartment, maybe with a few others, then visit the family on off hours and days off. As far as some folks getting outrageous section 8 rent vouchers, and many "folks" voting Democratic, the Democrats are like Santa Claus, giving everything to everyone, and, as has been said, it's difficult to vote against Santa Claus
Hey guys/gals ,
Go visit @Younglionking7 twitter t/l and tell me why this guy is on the street.
Here's a sample of what you'll find http://www.dangerandplay.com
..it's the pos that may have well just shark-bumped Trumps security in Dayton. Inspired by Jedidiah Brown's actions and the Chicago Trump rally disruption
His current twitter has more. Like a police use of force model guideline checklist by state which I suppose is to measure progress on weakening of law enforcement or perhaps to determine where the current weak points are already.
Now we have rap record company rewarding this asshole with free shit for his social disruption actions and since the attempted attack he has gained about 5,000 follows compared to his last archive.
This is the message we're sending now. WTF man. Time to get out of here.
If nothing else "heads up" is all I can say
How about the section 8 super voucher in the kinzie building. He murdered his neighbor and was in a wheelchair because of a gunshot wound. Makes you wonder.
Nobody rents a 4k house long term.....they buy their own. This is so the rich can sit on property and ensure a steady flow of rental income until they are ready to move back or cash out. Simple.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I'm losing my home next month because of some financial issues my family has had and someone gets this type of house for free?
3/14/2016 10:45:00 AM
Sorry to hear that! Did you call all the aldermen,the state reps,state senators, have you visited your congressman's office? These people the lowlifes (Bet many have criminal records or are here as illegal invaders), this is terrible! Many of us like myself worked CPD, but on days on off special employment and or a part time outside job! Now we have rahm our mayor raising taxes promising the 550 Million due the police pension fund would be deposited first quarter 2016! You guessed it Hauser-Lappe put the band back together and find out why please! Wonder if the feds have finally looked into the 60 million given to the davis/vanenko (Daleys family) cabal? Think about that 60 million gone vanished hard working coppers pension money given to thieves who authorized this? First 1 on the federal bus gets the best seats!
The real story here is how did a probationary corrections officer get promoted to Chief of Police in one year? Who is his guy?
http://abc7chicago.com/news/suburban-police-chief-claims-police-misconduct-in-his-own-arrest-/1241020/
Wow, no wonder Daley moved?
The biggest joke of all is that the joke is on us who work and pay taxes.
Black protestors at police headquarters over a racial slur , omg they take off work to protest a slur ?
Do any of them ever listen to rap music , every other word is a racial slur , booty banging Hoe , shooting folks ?
What about all the dead colored people , colored people shot by yes other colored folks .
No problem there , poleeece said racial slur. Maybe the poleeece , maybe not .
No problem all those unwed baby mamas , baby daddy maybe one of a dozen possible sperm donors .
Now get a job , teach your young men to respect life and ladies like civilized people do .
Much as I hate feeding the entitlement of the gimmedats, I fully support sharing the manifold benefits of vibrant diversity with the upper and upper middle class types who so passionately advocate for it!
Why should we middle/working class types get to keep all the beautiful vibrancy for ourselves? Let us unselfishly share the benefits of vibrancy with those most likely to vote for and support it?
OT- Did you guys see this?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/obituaries/ct-joseph-roddy-dead-20160311-story.html
RIP Mr Roddy.
Worked in 023, saw section 8 in diversey and Broadway building. Couldnt afford it in my dreams. This was 1995. Fto said, "They live better than you do." Found it to be the truth over the years. Would go to a domestic, pookie would be playing xbox on a 60 inch screen, drinking a 40, while I was working, putting a kid through a reputable college. Saw a 24 year old man with a wic card. This shit goes on.told by supervisors to catch and release any "no licenzio, no seguro" as well.
This story makes me #FeelTheBern
Maybe it's just time to clean house and start whacking anybody involved in decisions like this.
Scooter46, you don't know shit. If the tenant wrecks the apartment the CHA pays for all the repairs too. After you sent the repair bill to the building owner he handed right to the CHA. Section 8 is a very good deal for the owner. Remember he can't sell or give his building away so he has the government pay the thing off.
And they keep raising taxes. Take my money from me and some guy who has no job has a million dollar view.
They just announced the lathrop plan. The Fking leeches are getting lawns. Parks. Playgrounds. Over 500 units. You want a yard. Good luck affording that. But you get to work hard for these public housing people to relax on their own and not work.
Remember this...
"Sandra Bland did nothing wrong" - Hillary Rodam Clinton
Section 8 vouchers are awarded -- or so we are told -- through a lottery that is held only once every ten years or so. There are years-long waiting lists for "affordable housing," and there is even a booby trap. If you obtain a voucher and do not find housing within 60 days, the voucher is taken away from you.
Considering this, I find it astonishing that there are so many Section 8 tenants in their mid-20s. It is as though there is an accelerated process for them, some sort of side door.
I have seen announcements of a lottery opening distributed months ahead of time, mailed out to the clients of various "legal clinics" and "community organizations," certain church groups, etc.
The public at large only found out about it if they happened to catch one or two 15-second "public service announcements" broadcast on the radio only two or three days before the lottery opened -- not even enough time to obtain a form, let alone to get it in before the deadline.
Lai "got a call in 2013 ABOUT a woman who’d gotten a “housing choice voucher...” This seems to imply a third party involved, some entity interceding for and assisting her, as I have seen myself. Wouldn't surprise me -- but we know well that not everyone "has a phone call."
$4,000/month for a luxury townhome when a (childless, alone, ill) senior citizen cannot even get near a $700 one-room studio with a bathroom so tiny that they could not possibly get their walker in there, let alone the oxygen bottle too. They will, most likely, be dead before they ever work their way through this system using the front door, so to speak.
OK.
Nice of the taxpayers to turn an unsalable and unrentable liability into a cash cow for the owner. $100,000 already, and you still own it.
The mordant Appalachian saying would seem to apply here -- "Them as has, gits."
$47 million a month for this, huh?
"I remember another article a few years ago busting this scam out and the CHA said that it was going to discontinue vouchers for luxury apartments. So that was bullshit?"
3/14/2016 06:48:00 AM
Apparently.
CHA to curb controversial 'supervouchers' in luxury buildings
August 17, 2014
"The Chicago Housing Authority is changing a controversial program that paid for low-income residents to live in some of the city's most expensive apartment buildings, bowing to criticism that it wasted tax dollars.
"The CHA said it is tightening the formula it uses to determine the maximum rent it will pay to subsidize people who hold housing vouchers, a change that will effectively make many luxury downtown high-rises off limits. Under the so-called "supervoucher" program, the CHA currently is covering payments approaching $3,000 per month for a few residents to live in high-end buildings like 500 N. Lake Shore Drive and Aqua Tower, which charge some of the highest rents in Chicago..."
http://www.chicagobusiness.com/realestate/20140817/CRED03/140819875/cha-to-curb-controversial-supervouchers-in-luxury-buildings
Three Officers Shot at 3716 W. Polk St. in Fillmore.
What are you Coppers bent out of shape about?
Didn't these people (who are now your social betters by design)
tell you guys on Election Night 2008 that "Y'all works for US now?"
The ship has sailed and took all provisions with it...
Get mad and fight back
or die on your knees begging them
and their political masters for crumbs.
These "opportunity zones" were a Valarie Jarrett idea...............backed up by Daley. I remember when the program first started, there was an older woman from South Shore who told me "it was like the gates of hell have been opened." AND THEY WERE!
People can interpret this any way they want: There is no way that a non-working, no taxpaying, multiple child spawner deserves a better house and car for practically free while someone who works hard and pays taxes can't afford the same. No fucking way in any universe. Absolutely abhorrent and criminal and this is why this city and state need a political enema.
It's called pay to play. The elected officials promising our tax dollars to those who refuse to work just for their vote. In this woman's case her democratic vote is worth $46,880.00 per year just for housing. That does not include the WIC card, SSI and the countless other entitlements she is collecting. No wonder our state is broke and our pension is at 26% funded. Margret Thatcher's famous quote is coming to reality real soon, "The only problem with socialism is you eventually run out of other peoples money" So the people who reside in this country Legally, who refuse to work, are bankrupting the system on their own so we should leave our front and back and side door open to let anyone into our country? Do you leave your doors unlocked and welcome anyone in to help themselves to your food, belongings or whatever they may want? No of course you don't. You may now realize that even though you keep your doors locked that will never prevent the government from taking as much of your income as they deem necessary. Keep voting democratic.
Remember you still have freedom of speech- one on one they will huff and puff but never do anything but huff and puff- I'm assuming u work out and are strong and carry -have some fun when they axe u for money or the time or anything else - talk quietly but say anything- carry some bananas when ever u go down town and make some memories for when u r retired and live somewhere else- feeding the homeless is a noble endevour
This is the bs they were suppose to fix. We see how they fixed it.
My high rise on marine drive recently became section 8 approved to the chagrin of half of the residents. Alot of foreigners are also juicing this scam. It's a Romanian guy in my building on marine drive that has a swanky apartment via voucher. He works under the table and does dope drives his new audi and, get this, he has a boat that he docks at Belmont harbor.I think we are the fools for going to work everyday. I caught a cab and with me being a minority, the driver asked was it government housing and how he could get a place in my building. I told him I bust my ass to pay for my condo.
3/14/2016 11:25:00 PM
First thing I thought of were they were all "dollies" for the politicians, rev-runs, etc. Lottery my ass.
This is unfucking believable. THIS is what's wrong with not just this city, but this country. Everyone "deserves" some thing for free. What happened to working for what you want or need.
I served in the military a while back, I received an Honorable Discharge and came home and found a job. I never applied for VA benefits because i always had insurance through my employer. Since then I have gotten married and had kids. Any parent on here knows how expensive it can be when you have kids that need to see specialists, need eyeglasses, and braces, all which are not covered by insurance.
I took a trip down to the VA hospital to apply for health benefits hoping to alleviate some of these costs (which were in the thousands last year). I was denied. I was told "you make waaaaaaaaay too much money for us to give you health benefits. This is a new law they just passed". I'm sorry, but I thought the only requirement was being a veteran. I wasn't applying for public aid. I was applying for something I thought I earned for serving my country. I'm sorry for working hard and making something of myself.
Hard working people continue to get screwed over while others holding their hand out get to live in luxury homes for free? Where is the sense in that. I guess I'll keep breaking my back to support me and my family while others sit around playing Xbox and smoking weed in a home I can only dream about living in. Can't wait to be able to leave this fucking place.
Margret Thatcher's famous quote is coming to reality real soon, "The only problem with socialism is you eventually run out of other peoples money.
Obama takes it a step further.
When you run out of other people's money, you just have the Federal Reserve print some more.
That story was very depressing.
The CHA should be bringing in Dutch housing experts. The Dutch are making perfectly nice homes out of former shipping containers. Lots of vacant land on South Side - though I would prefer they build these Dutch shipping container homes in some place we all hate like...
Cambridge Mass - home of Harvard University
New Haven CT - home of Yale University
New Haven CT is a really nasty slum town.
This boondoggle is a g-dsend for grifter property owners like the one in my building.
To outline how perverted this whole Section 8 and high rent subsidization can become, let me beging with some back story with what I have sen.
An income property owner in my buildin, a lawyer, owns units all over the city. They had more before the housing bubble, but lost a few.
Anyway, in my particular building this owner has been behind tens of thousands of dollars on their building assessment payments.
What has been especially aggravating beyond that is after the housing crash (by the way, the owner was behind on assessments before the crash), this owner wasn't keeping current on the mortgage payments on some of the units in my building, but they did have tennents in the units.
The owner was evidently collecting rent and not paying the mortgage and again was in arrears on assesments.
On one occassion, the Cook County Sheriff comes to the building and smashes in the door to one of the units the owner has and they evict the poor young woman who was paying rent to the landlord (This was a regular renter, not Sec. 8). The poor young woman had nowhere to stay. She'd done nothing wrong. She was current on the rent. She had no idea the owners unit was in forclosure.
On multiple occasions this income property owner would get close to losing one of the properties in my building in forclosure and just before the property would be scheduled to come up at public forclosure sale auction, this owners property would be taken off the auction list. The reason that would happen is because this owner would get current with the bank or do some renegotiation square dance with the bank (may be more nefarious stuff then that). This cycle of, in forclosure and then out of forclosure on particular units owned by this person has repeated itself several times over the years.
Obviously, the courts do not monitor our give a shit about serial forclosures of income property owned by people who are gaming the system and not paying other obligations like assessments.
NOW, fast forward to this subsidized housing boondoggle.
This is a goodmine for this income property owner and others like them.
Rent is paid for by the taxpayer that could be as much as 150% over market rental rates and the unit owner is protected, evidently as posted in the thread, in the event there is any potential damage to the unit, because the taxpayer will cover it!
The Sec. 8's this owner now has in units?
In one case, Baby Momma puts her adult kids on the lease as visitors, but they're not visiting, they're living there, 5-6 people in a STUDIO apt.
In another unit owned by this individual, evidently the person who secured the unit under Sec. 8 then put someone else in the unit to live there! Thus pocketing rent? Making a crib for the girlfriend or "working girl"?
This whole thing is so fucked up it's unbelieveable. How can a State that can't come up with the money for lottery winners do this??
I just had my health insurance go up 47% to $600/month AND I can no longer see my Dr. of 20 years, because they are no longer in my insurance carriers network due to the losses my carrier has taken giving free healthcare to people milking that.
And, I see my taxes going to this shit?
And, the IRS has been giving billions of dollars in tax refunds without taking any steps to confirm the refund applicants are actually who they say they are??
If I'm lyin about what I outlined above, I'm dyin'
I'm gonna go up the street and vote for Trump right now.
He's the only chance I see of EVER making a start on stopping what allows shit like this to go on.
The amazing thing is that senior citizens who worked and paid taxes all their lives are ignored while these morons waste our tax money.
Several times over the years, I tried to report welfare fraud. Ha they don't want to know.
"Do you leave your doors unlocked and welcome anyone in to help themselves to your food, belongings or whatever they may want? No of course you don't."
3/15/2016 02:08:00 AM
I've heard that idea defended -- many times by now.
"Be cool, it's OK, they just want some of your stuff."
Seriously.
"Black protesters at police headquarters over a racial slur, omg they take off work to protest a slur?"
3/14/2016 06:16:00 PM
Funny how that when you're around them you'll hear the same word shouted out 800 times a day until you're about to lose your mind.
Gotta say it -- there seems to be a "filter" of some kind in operation, determining who gets what. Large "blended families" -- three or four gals with a whole mess of kids -- seem to do the best, while elderly people alone are nearly invisible, and get the least.
It fits in with Ezekiel Emanuel's concept of "You've had a full life, no more care for you after age 60." The young are to be nurtured, boosted up, encouraged to breed "a vigorous body politic" -- i.e., Democratic voters...
Anonymous said...
It's called pay to play. The elected officials promising our tax dollars to those who refuse to work just for their vote. In this woman's case her democratic vote is worth $46,880.00 per year just for housing. That does not include the WIC card, SSI and the countless other entitlements she is collecting. No wonder our state is broke and our pension is at 26% funded. Margret Thatcher's famous quote is coming to reality real soon, "The only problem with socialism is you eventually run out of other peoples money" So the people who reside in this country Legally, who refuse to work, are bankrupting the system on their own so we should leave our front and back and side door open to let anyone into our country? Do you leave your doors unlocked and welcome anyone in to help themselves to your food, belongings or whatever they may want? No of course you don't. You may now realize that even though you keep your doors locked that will never prevent the government from taking as much of your income as they deem necessary. Keep voting democratic.
3/15/2016 02:08:00 AM
True Trump talked about Angela Merkel of Germany allowing all the illegal invaders in and guess what? She lost her election with a resounding defeat, no wonder so many are backing outsider Trump! the others are taking trumps ideas because it resonates with actual citizens that vote!
They just announced the lathrop plan. The Fking leeches are getting lawns. Parks. Playgrounds. Over 500 units. You want a yard. Good luck affording that. But you get to work hard for these public housing people to relax on their own and not work.
3/14/2016 10:21:00 PM
What's even worse is that the people living around the Lathrop Homes have been paying into the Addison Tif District for decades even though they saw none of the money. NOW the city wants to redevelop the Lathrop Homes land into parks and housing and make that a NEW TIF district!!! In addition to fleecing the homeowners around there for years! Two TiF districts to pay for this stuff? While the CHA is paying $4000 a month for people to live in luxury homes? I'm so tired of chicago. I can not wait to leave this place. It is so unfair to make taxpayers whose homes are over $250,000 pay the extra taxes for those whose homes are not. Now we have to pay not one but TWO TIF payments for others on top of this. I can no longer afford to live here. I'm taxed out and treated like a freakin piggy bank for everything. All the while we have potholes in our streets and trash everywhere.
if you vote dem
you are part of this issue
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Gotta say it -- there seems to be a "filter" of some kind in operation, determining who gets what. Large "blended families" -- three or four gals with a whole mess of kids -- seem to do the best, while elderly people alone are nearly invisible, and get the least.
It fits in with Ezekiel Emanuel's concept of "You've had a full life, no more care for you after age 60." The young are to be nurtured, boosted up, encouraged to breed "a vigorous body politic" -- i.e., Democratic voters...
3/15/2016 12:19:00 PM
Fact-check.
Seventy-five. He says you're no longer a contributing member of society once you're seventy-five. I disagree, but that's for another post on some other blog.
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/10/why-i-hope-to-die-at-75/379329/
Anonymous The Neanderthal said...
"Do you leave your doors unlocked and welcome anyone in to help themselves to your food, belongings or whatever they may want? No of course you don't."
3/15/2016 02:08:00 AM
I've heard that idea defended -- many times by now.
"Be cool, it's OK, they just want some of your stuff."
Seriously.
3/15/2016 11:44:00 AM
Naw...
It ain't no barky little teacup critter chewing your shoes
or rapidly humping your leg...
"Arf! >Pant!-Pant!-Pant!< Arf! Arf!"
"Hee-Hee! It's Sooooo Cuuuuute!"
Not-at-fucking-all...
It walks upright and passes for human.
It has no "brain" anywhere in it's sensory feedback loop...
Eyes hard-wired to the hands and the genitals.
It eats, sleeps and breeds where it shits...
The Good Lord gives a pigeon the wherewithal
to at least shit over the side of it's nest...
Don't look it in the eyes...
Just let it do what it does and hopefully
it will go away.
Until it doesn't...
Heh...
It's your hide.
How much do you value it?
"In GOD we trust."
Everybody else?
Keep your hands where we can see 'em...
Oh wait...
That's that mean, aggressive, hostile
and unfriendly "Warrior Cop" mentality
of another time that the #blm mob, the aclu
and the DOJ "Lynch Mob" want to see beaten
out of CPD no matter how many lives are lost
as a result.
"We don't get why you guys are so full
of anger and hatred. Stop it. It scares us..."
"In another unit owned by this individual, evidently the person who secured the unit under Sec. 8 then put someone else in the unit to live there! Thus pocketing rent? Making a crib for the girlfriend or "working girl"?"
3/15/2016 09:55:00 AM
It's WelfareBNB!
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As we struggle to survive, some coppers working 2-3 jobs to take care of their families, rahm raises taxes promises the police pension fund the first quarter of 2016 550 million money stolen and not put in deposited it well guess what? It is not there and dean and his bunch are really quiet, heck dean could not even call a news conference on the pathetic way we were not equipped to deal with attacking thugs during Donald trumps rally! Have you read national news where they are now referring to Second City Cop for information? That says so much how an "insignificant" blog can be so powerful! This blog gives hard working street coppers a voice,and the media is finally figuring that out! Thank you "spirits of the air" SCC for all you do!
"Fact-check.
Seventy-five. He says you're no longer a contributing member of society once you're seventy-five. I disagree, but that's for another post on some other blog.
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/10/why-i-hope-to-die-at-75/379329/"
3/15/2016 05:29:00 PM
No prob. I was just remembering the chart from Betsy McCaughey's Wall Street Journal" article some time back -- which has now been paywalled. I will dig some more when I get time.
We both got the general idea here -- not just from charts, but from what we see and hear and experience every day.
Oh -- a friend says that the "egg and herring and sweet potato" cat food in the expensive little foil packets is really good. If you got a plastic spork, and something to cut the bag open with (arthritis makes "tear this slippery s__t on the red line" a little rough) you're good to go.
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Love ya. Take care and stay safe, my brother or sister.
Meow.
"Nobody rents a 4k house long term.....they buy their own."
3/14/2016 05:38:00 PM
Not without a down payment, not without proof of income. This is the real hook.
"This is so the rich can sit on [unsalable, unrentable] property and ensure a steady flow of [subsidized] rental income until they are ready to move back or cash out. Simple."
Precisely.
"On one occassion, the Cook County Sheriff comes to the building and smashes in the door to one of the units the owner has and they evict the poor young woman who was paying rent to the landlord (This was a regular renter, not Sec. 8). The poor young woman had nowhere to stay. She'd done nothing wrong. She was current on the rent. She had no idea the owners unit was in forclosure."
3/15/2016 09:55:00 AM
Happened to us. Landlord [illegal condo conversion] sees that there is still a month left on our lease and suggests "So why don't you rent it out to someone?"
Let them find out, huh?
This is the thinking. Not mine, theirs.
Special place in hell reserved -- that's about all I can say.
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